Interesting. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. This did the trick. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. Im a little ahead of you on this path. I dont have any aftermarket parts in it. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Oh its not a logical move. What ammo? and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. Have you tried shooting it? I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. can your extractor move freely? I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. Yes i am. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. Clear editor. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Sometimes they go in crooked and stick up a bit. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. You cannot paste images directly. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. Just a thought. Eject it. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. buddy19 Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. One new winner* is announced every week! None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. Check for it. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. How long are the mounting screws for the RDS? The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Give your new G19 some good lube on the rails, tabs and the barrel before shooting it again. Your link has been automatically embedded. The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. are you certain that everything is installed properly? If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. Something he has seen in the field. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. You are using an out of date browser. It's working fine now. 2. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. One new winner* is announced every week! Upload or insert images from URL. This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. Sorry about that. Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Clear editor. What do your used primers look like? Or like actually hitting it with a file some? this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. Great info thank you. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 So let's make sure we understand this situation. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. Haha. What Argyle said sounds about right. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. One mag in particular was the worst. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. The problem is when the slide slams forward. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Feel the mouth of the case for burrs, etc.. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. Your previous content has been restored. You can post now and register later. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. Paste as plain text instead, I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. Haha. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Oct 20, 2013. "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. I will look into buying some calipers. I could measure how it was off. try firing it. I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. 1. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. Shoot the crap out of it. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. You cannot paste images directly. Wish I could look at it directly. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. SJ 40, thank you! I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. Its light but mushy. Like polishing amounts? that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. Haha). I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. Upload or insert images from URL. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. I may have to get out a Glock and take a look. Upload or insert images from URL. Your previous content has been restored. Thank you! Powered by Invision Community. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! You can post now and register later. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. For that matter, 99.99% of dirty unlubricated Glock 23's with stock parts and well worn RSA's will go into battery 99.99% of the time with all but the worst .40 cal ammo. I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. is the cruciform on the trigger bar seated properly in the trigger mechanism housing? I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Will get some pics next time at the range. Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. Its light but mushy. May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. - Bren. Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to harm to me and mine. If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. None of my other Glocks do it. Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. Your link has been automatically embedded. My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. You must log in or register to reply here. JavaScript is disabled. I can swap the sli. That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. How are you sending the slide forward? Glock OEM triggers are generally crappy even after polishing, but they are reliable. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. JavaScript is disabled. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. Maybe he did something to the slide? Glocks are pretty simple really. Is it safe to shoot? 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