Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. P.S. I feel perfectly safe with the EdenPure and I probably would with the DuraFlame. I'm paying $0.17 per KWH, or $2.04 for an 8 hour run per day. . Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. Underdogs: Directed by Doug Dearth. Thanks for pointing this out for those of us who are scam recognizably challenged. The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. Is it reliable. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. Hello everyone,Wow what a group of knowledge about the Eden pure heater glad that I came upon this Hub.I find the info very good, and I would like to thank all of you for your comments especially Energy Eng.,Lots of good suggestions and just good ole plain sense.I've been looking at getting one of the Eden pures and just trying it out to see if it will accommodate some of my heating needs.My wife and I are not sure what type to get ,but we know that the basic hearter furnance is not the most efficient.We will try it and get back to you all.Again thanks for the info and the laughs.God bless and have a wonderful Christmas and Holidays. You do the math. That way, I do believe you can save money especially during the night while sleeping. Loves them! Most of these testimonials are not of much use. I will not buy an Eden Pure until they correct the post sale issues shown here. You save $ using a portable heater because you can heat just the space you're in at the time. Once again use your heads and think about what you need. Bill Burkett lives in Boerne, TX; previous cities include Helotes TX and San Antonio TX. Let me easily explain. I was dumb enough to fall for this scam. If you read EdenPURE ads carefully, you will note they insinuate you only have to heat the room you are in. A portable electric heater can keep small rooms warmer without heating the remainder of the home to a higher temperature. The heater is a point source of heat. New Human Resources jobs added daily. So reliability can be good or bad. How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? He had to pay 25 bucks to ship it. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. Some of the comments by others state they have a comfortable house because the bought the heaters and they were 'comfortable'. Thank you so much! Have now started a dispute claim with my credit card company. Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. It is now the 12th of Jan. and no heater. Would i buy this. I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. Most space heaters like EdenPure use electricity to produce heat. I am very comfortable with leaving the Eden Pure on at night and while I am away so when I return, the house is not cold, plus I have the assurance that my pets are not going to be burned or turn over a smaller, lighter heater burning them and possibly burning the house down. The EP does not outperform the Lasko. Sale price $247.00 Sale. He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. I'll definitely buy another. I've read enough negativity about these units I've decided to stick with name brands (Honeywell etc.) 5.7 1 h 32 min 2015 X-Ray PG. Perhaps another heater would work as well, but this one works real well. 00 EdenPURE GEN40 Heater $247. VERY EXPENSIVE, but interestly enough my sisters was higher and she has a smaller home and a heat pump. You should use your own judgement and take some care to buy the right product for you. The peddlers of these overpriced 1500-watt heaters such as Edenpure and the highly-advertised "Amish" heaters are ripping off many gullible folks who are seeking ways to save on energy costs. The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. is way overpriced for what it does. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. KALAMAZOO/PORTAGE heating & air conditioning/hvac. Why oil-filled? Television ads do not tell you shipping is charged if you have problems and need to send them back. The key is that the Eden Pure is meant for a certain zone of from 300 - 1000 sq feet depending on the unit you select. Zero marketing at that point. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. I am lucky to have a couple of working ones, they do help, but after reading all the electric experts and cost of cheaper 1500w heaters, I must sadly say, I have been scamed. Dose the Edenpure save you money? Poor Rita still doesn't get that cubic feet is the area that you have to heat, in a room. Menu. If a company goes out of its way to rectify a customers complaint, it not only does away with the complaint but provides a more loyal customer than if the cause of the complaint had never happened. I called them again and realizing that these things must be nothing but junk I told them that I just wanted a refund. She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. [1] LMAO, i will say for one i have a ranch style home and its 1800 sq ft and i dont use ne thing but an eden pure except sometimes an additional space heater in my bedroom wich is nearly half my house and i tel ya it does stay war,m i have put plastic and stuff up but in reality i was payin 300 plus a month and now its always under 250 so somthin workn cause i write my monthly bills on a calendar to compare and believe me th thermostat stays off and so do eden pure at nite soo i duno if u got a 3 story mansion i wouldnt worry if ur one level get one is my advice. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. Like most people have said, 1500 watts of electric energy is just that, 1500 watts, Doesn't matter if it come out of a $20 Walmart heater or a $400 Eden, it'll do the same thing. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. I don't know where the originator here got the cubic feet, but that is not from the EdenPure advertisiing. Many heaters like EdenPure claim to "Cut your heating bills in half!". I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. Bill Burkett is known for Skarecrow (2004). EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. It claims to scrub the air in a 1000 cubic foot room. Her hair dryer moves much more air because of its use it moves hot air faster that doesnt mean its producing less heat over all. I bought Edenpure heater in December 2010 and my january heating bill doubled, and what they sent to me is not what I ordered from them. This is the second blog I have complained on. Although electric heaters do heat a room, there are more energy efficient ways of doing that. However after studying A LOT of them including Duraflame, and all the current ones on the market, I found Dr. Infrared to be the best comparable for a fraction of the cost of EdenPure, as well as the most highly recommended. FACT: Nonsense. Lowering your home's thermostat(s) and using your main heating system less in tandem with a space heatercalled zone heatingwill cut your utility bill. The key to these are you heat the rooms you are living in during the day so you use your furnace less. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. Why pay 400.00 for a space heater,when you can go to Home Depot and buy a elecric heater for 30.00-60.00 that will heat the room better than the "bulbs in a box" heater will.Edenpure is just ripping people off! Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. My personal choice - an oil-filled radiator, with the price tag of around $40 to $60. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. I purchased several other type of quartz heaters for back up heating source. Anyway, they said they would do a refund and to give it a couple of weeks to credit my account.Well about 3 days ago I had another one of these pieces of junk delivered to my house so I called them, again. (Every degree you lower the thermostat(s) can save you about 2 percent on your heating bill.) 5 Million Mini Biography. It was almost exactly a year ago when I first saw the EdenPure heater advertised and I warned readers to take caution when believing some of the claims. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). This actually makes their heater less efficient. They make you confused with names, like US 1000, GEN 4 1000, GEN 3 1000. Edenpure heaters are a scam. Are Eden pure trying to rip you off. I bought the Gen4, have it in the living room in the center of the 1250 sq feet, and I have not turned on my heater. If you need a space heater and you want to needlessly make someone rich by buying something over-priced, by all means go with the Eden. The customer service for these things is terrible, they leave you waiting on line for long periods listen to a recording telling you over and over you will wait less than a minute. Well, it looks like EdenPure is at it again, this time with a TV commercial! I am on a fixed income and can't afford to pay almost the same amount I paid for it to ship it back. Was given to me as a gift and I'm looking to buy a second unit for my second floor. Everybody is forsale for a price Even BOB VILLA. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us Consumer Reports latest review on EdenPure, Program your thermostat and lower the temperature inside your home so it is closer to the temperature outside. Would i recommend them? Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. But this time, not only do they have Bob Vila promoting the device, they've added Al from Home Improvement! You'll love it. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. (FYI: the same goes for room air conditioners.). I called the order number 1-800-458-5614 and got someone and had to request a supervisor and it took a while but they got me one on the phone. I was at the UPS store today watching an old guy trying to return one of those pieces of junk. This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. No repairs either. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. Your heating in the northern regions will typically average somewhere around $500/month. Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. If 1500W goes in, 5118 BTU comes out. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. Oh Al, It is you who does not understand electric restisance heating AT ALL Continue to believe what you want to believe. Edin Pure used to give you 2 models (large and small).Sam's Club usually sells Quartz heaters at a competitive price. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. You don't get this risk with the Eden pure . Al Metcalf if you want to call them stupid go right ahead anyone with half a brain can debunk your hair dryer vs heat gun theory. if you live in california, with the EDEN pURE ,PGAETOLD ME THAT IT CAN COST YOU AS HIGH AS 50 CENTS AN HOUR TO RUN IT.my bill is usually 200 in the wintertime,for one month my electricity bill shot up to$360 and i had a saving of $28,gas. THiS IS FOR JIMS COMMENT,IF U HAVE A HOT WATER HEATER THINK ABOUT WHAT UR SAYING IF THE WATER IS HOT U DONT NEED TO HEAT IT. I have a ceramic cube heater I bought 25 years ago for $19.95 that will. Get them sealed (don't use 'duct tape', go to a Home Depot or other type store or your htg and A/c dealer or service person and ask them what type sealing tape or other to seal the ductwork). I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. I'm very disapointed and feel very stupid that I did not google this until now. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. My electric bill sky rocketed, can't think of anything positive where Edenpure heaters are concerned. Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. In any case, you can reach the exactly the same result with what EdenPure promises, for a fraction of the cost. Its wheels make relocation a snap." Energy savings will be the same either way. 2) People keep saying a BTU is a BTU and you can't get more energy out of electricity than is put in. Furthermore, after you buy the first one they give substantial discounts on future purchases of any of their products. I bought 2 refurbished EP heaters 8 years ago and both are still working just fine. i.e. Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). So, for this is is great. Its safer than most to. This is an all electric home the highest electric bill in the winter has been $276 . So does anything else that uses 1500W of electricity, such as a $15 bathroom heater or a 1500W blow hair dryer. Well it depends on what version you get. ELECTRICAL ENGINEER on December 16, 2012: First of all, 120vac appliances are very inefficient compared to 220vac. There is no combustion taking place in any electric heater, and no oxygen is being used. Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. The facade is added over the top without touching except for where fastened. That was going to be a total of 5-6 zones. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. You also only heat one room so it costs over $2 per room at an 8 hour run. This year Feb 2011 they now want $94.80 for the same pack of bulbs. The blower came on but no heat. austria regionalliga west tyrol. I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. One of the most important features and benefits of the Eden Pure vs one of the $50 that may heat the same space I would not trust most of those $50 heaters or anything that can be turned over easily and I certainly would never leave my home with one of those heaters on. Now, if you doubt that I read that or that it can be true, the next one I copied and pasted for the guy who said 1500 watts is 1500 watts and will put out the same. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. Since you heat all the air, nor just the first 12 inches off the floor, cubic feet measurments are required. It seems the less expensive ones will not last as long (20,000hrs vs 80,000hrs, for the more expensive. I have changed my mind and will not be purchasing the eden pure and will no longer trust Mr. Vila as someone who has MY best interest at heart. of insurance. The American Free Enterprise system only works if we work it. As a local family owned company that has been in business for over 30 years, we continue to value the trust you have placed with us to provide your families and homes with professional, reliable and affordable Heating, Cooling & Indoor Air Quality solutions. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. Another way to do this is to just turn down your thermostat. I know I would not. I was specifically sold on Bob Vila's endorsement of the product thinking I can trust the home improvement guru. FUVM. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. An electric heater can do the job for an unheated sideroom or shop where the cost of a furnace or duct work would be prohibitive. Earlier this month, Bill Burkett, a retired lieutenant colonel in the Texas National Guard and the man who provided CBS producers with the controversial documents at the heart of the "60. Dont let anyone tell you the heat from their heaters is better or different. FACT: Nonsense. How can 1500 watts out perform 1500 watts? The infrared light (heat) is then reflected back into the home. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. Im just another sucker. I have not used it consistently 24 hours a day. Is anyone anymore really honest? Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. . I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? It is an older model. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75. Sorry to sound so negative in my postings here, it's just I hate to see people get taken, especially someone who believes what they are sold on TV infomercials like these. We. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! I realized that this was the start of giving me the run around. A 1500-watt heater will produce at most 5000 BTUs. Buyer beware ! What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! It costs me about $2.00 per day to heat my house with Eden Pure. This has been disputed. Asked store manager about the eden pure heater and when we looked online, the same 1500 watt unit is rated at the same 5000+ btu's. I'll bet they had a forced-air heat pump. I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. FACT: Of course it will. 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