As at least one person has suggested above, its time to stop feeding the energy machine. When the counterpart is finished, he expected a quick rebuttal, but doesnt get one. I should have spoken more carefully. Stubble, I hate to even mention this but It does remind me of the mindset of many (thankfully not all) Muslims who, no matter what atrocity they are confronted with always see the Jews behind it to make them look bad. Salesman: Mr White would you like to buy this webAddress off us for $95 if you get it now? I agree with Bills comment of thread hijack attempt. Its also an example of what I see as a sense of entitlement. My Reply Its out to confuse you! Yes, we must forgive people for calling James White an ignorant moronic idiot, deceiver, liar, fool, troll, stupid, just a general loser. It is not like we are thin-skinned. Tiber swim team 2005. No, because I dont consider posting pictures in the name of humor a way to win a debate. Can you get off this tangent and actually make a point? Biting again But at least I am not as bad as some of the others here. Actually, the fellow may have been right, I mean not in the actual analogy but i did notice that Dr. White said he has been studying Islam and arabic maybe he really is an islamic fundementalist! : Two questions: whos the Islamic Pope? The Final Act was just amazing! Join Facebook to connect with James R. White and others you may know. Maybe youre not an overzealous troll. CareBear: Jesus wants me to be rich. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them (John 20:23). God knows the true Canon (he knows what he wrote). (big problem here). At any rate, folks need only consult the Amazing. You have a different (although overlapping) list of books that you say was divinely inspired. I challenge you to back up your words with evidence showing where Dr. White has always proclaim(ed) victory. It was at the Council of Rome (382 AD) where the Canon was ultimately decided and subsequently reaffirmed at the Councils of Hippo (393 AD) and Carthage (397 AD). Above, youll find an excerpt I have posted in reply to Esau trying to pull an old trick on me. But I dont think it *hurts* anyone to debate apologetics in this thread, Mr. Spock. Surrounding the combined motif is a typical Greek pattern that further enhances the visual appeal of the tattoo. Webcast 2. There were disagreements as well over the Old Testament Canon. It should be noted that even if an author does not write down a list of his or her works, a canon exists nonetheless, which he or she knows infallibly. I have not gone off on a tangent, though you have. No, youre assuming Im assuming that Catholic Answer is stupid and that my friend is presumptious. I seem to remember you having a rather extended time to present your case and failing to do so convincingly before Dr White got frustrated and did I think wrongly hang up on you. Couldnt call him out on sloppy usage. Or would you rather retract the presumptious statement and just admit you jumped the gun while you were getting a little too emotional and excited? Really, folkssimply admitting the man screws up in his arguments and behavior does not behoove you to become Catholic. Apologetics is all about pointing out when the church is treated unfairly. I have a twilight zone feeling about it. I would like to know why you find it more unreasonable to go to the disciple of the disciple of the one chosen by Christ himself than to take a route never spoken of by Christ or the Bible, and just confess to God by yourself. You cannot even get a 500-year-old Calvinist to sit down with a 20-year-old Adventist. Putting out a pad of paper for people to share their thoughts with one another is not the same as being willing to be cross-examined. For example, you can choose any other kind of flower that is your favorite, or other colours that match better with your vibe. This is indeed childish behavior. Now, given what Foxfire was alluding to in the other thread, I can see that it is more than likely that the White disciples were responsible for this deception: He received a BA from Grand Canyon College, an MA from Good grief, Greg. Would the Disciples not choose their own disciples? Because I dont really think its worth the time. I praise You Lord Jesus and magnify Your Name above all names. ;^). Ending the debate was the right thing to do. Or are you so wrapped up with your infatuation for James White that you didnt even pay attention to certain particulars which have clearly gone above your head! Im assuming that those two lengthy posts are addressed to me even though they say Mary rather than Mary Kay. I pointed out that sola scriptura is not in the scriptures. Yet another substance-impaired snit. So you decided for yourself what it says and then decided youd go along with a group that agrees with you. The Church invented the very study called theology and has from the beginning sent out missionaries to convert the Pagan. I mean, what do you tell people who stumble onto the site looking for theological answers who have never heard of James White? It means he knew of the site, and knew of White. Unfortunately, Naik knows better than to debate those who can demonstrate his errors. What? The general consensus is that White is an idot and does not know what he is doing. I do not know how to succeed in telling you that the path you are on does lead to something horrible. . So you should be thankful for the checks-and-balances provided by those of us outside your walls. The rest of your armchair apologists are just sitting back flinging the accusations sans any effort to back them up. folks.) accurately analogize it to jihad-think 3. Donald Casadonte I was unaware that such a thing implicates the entirety of Roman Catholicism because Im not into committing categorical errors. A few obseravations: using James Whites own words but disguised as a Islamic fundamentalist. The original post goes to Whites moronic photoshops, which is all Ive focused on. The only thing that has gone on here is 6 or 7 people posted anwhere from 50 to 60 posts each, whipping each other into a mob frenzy, which is what Akin appears to have wanted as he has remained silent through it all, even silent to allegations of him totally jumping the gun. It is a manner of common decency and respect for the ones fellow man (I would say fellow Christian, but I know White has his own theory on that). 18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. WHATS UP WITH THAT? 3. So the same type of photo would be appropriate if demonstrated by a pro-choicer wishing to inject levity into the pro-life debate? Marketing.!!!! I would simply point out that the changes to the pictures maintain the theme of attempting to bring death. J+M+J. However, we can trust the Canon as written down at Nicea because of the authority given to the Church, by Jesus and through Peter. Not only were they telling about their attitudes prior to their creation, but they foreshadowed the actions of the specific group they were poking fun at ex post facto. Does Belief in the Trinity Necessitate Polytheism? Already did: 53 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen, I say unto you: except you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. Go back to the Bob & Joe example. James R. White is on Facebook. Meant to say Salvation controversy by Akin, great book, was also thinkinbg of White scripture alone book which i think is also a great book lol. Yet, where is the logic in his argument: Im ignoring the facts Donate All the faith in the world is utterly meaningless without charity, as Paul writes. I dont get this whole sense of entitlement. That many people cant all be wrong absent a huge conspiracy and at this point it seems more charitable to believe that White really is rather off-putting than to conclude that all his opponents are in some sort of sinister league with each other. The Book of the Annals of the Kings of Israel This was one of the hardest parts for me in my conversion. Purely in terms of strategy, he must know that this is hurting his cause among both his co-religionists and those he presumably seeks to woo from the One True Church. But all of that was a deflection of his assertion. Name Server: Its not conditional. Before that time I was not really acquainted with any of the apologetics blogs on either side. Im not interested in those arguments, nor in the well-blasted trenches of apologetics warfare, which I have avoided throughout, thanks. Your first sentence is a non sequitur. Important point. The Earlier Epistle to the Ephesians My parents and loved ones dont blindly follow the work of an internet apologist, regarding him and his work with blind fervor and zeal, hypocritically asking for things that they themselves dont offer. Every month another new Bible version comes out of the Feel free to uncharitably construe my words in the worst possible light Johnathan. Keep in mind that the Catholic Church is not a person, its the church founded by Christ. Alpha & Omega Men's T-shirt. I cant imagine people will give much credence to the opinion of someone with such a habit, so please feel free to rant away. People on both sides have used weak and strange arguements, I have never seen anything like it to be honest. Every single non-denomination of Protestantism, on the other hand, is a doctrine of salvation unto itself open only to her vaunted members who have the cunning to see Pastor So-and-so is right. Slander is saying something not true, so perhaps you should consider what exactly youre saying before you go shooting your keyboard off. Lamech It IS a bit of levity. Thanks for taking the time to make things clear! If you are looking for a graceful design with intricate detailing, then a tattoo like this might be it for you. Ive yet to hear James White claim that he DIDNT post those pictures. nothing wrong with that I suppose such a thing fits the logic and attitude of the mob though. Sooner or later, someone shows up in most of these threads to stick up for White. If you have a battle with the truth, thats your battle. Putting out a pad of paper for people to share their thoughts with one another is not the same as being willing to be cross-examined. I dont get what the big deal is with the pictures. He didnt just know the address. I suppose I should brush up on my regulations though, that or Mr. Akin should deal with the issues. all of which you clearly demonstrated by your assumptions that Catholic Answer was behind that website. Without it, theres no ad hominem. Bodily Assumption? In other words, he owns up to his mistakes. Praise God for the gift of James White. I apologize if I did. Get your popcorn and enjoy the freak show! Irrelevant: Jimmy doesnt have time to monitor his comments boxes either, and he doesnt have CA staffers doing it (this is his blog, not the CA blog). There it says punishment is sufficient, now forgive. Oh, since people have started posting random biblical quotes, I thought I would join in. His favorite topic. That is, why would Catholic anybody (e.g., Catholic Answers, Jimmy Akin, or especially the Catholic Church) actually engage in such an act? Way to major in minors there, sport. James White owes Catholics an apology for this. Everyone who is joined to Christ is under the obligation, the call, to stimulate one another to love and good deeds. Aug. 10, 6:22 pm The Greek people believed that the goddess Moira decide when a person to be born and to die, or in a biblical sense when a person should begin or end. As for my depth of study in church history (including the Father), I consider it sufficient to justify the statements I am making. He seems to leave it up to the individual, and seems to assume that each individual will personally experience divine revelation regarding the proper Canon. This thread was about his humor, not his theology. Beautiful Savior Islamists are the Nazis of the post-9/11 world, and thus anyone who depicts his debate opponents as Islamists automatically loses whatever debate was underway due to forfeiture. Ergo Z est Y. As you have, I can see. Grace and peace be upon each of you here and upon Jimmy Akin, James White, and Francis Beckwith. Im torn between both myself reading this. The Chronicles of King Ahasuerus[21] In this case however, we see an individual Protestant apologist who has humiliated himself and his cause by his attitude and behavior. P.O. Putting aside the merits of an important debate, its telling that Dr. Geisler also expresses dismay with Whites tone. I mean, after reading him, i see no real refutation or engaging with his points. Repentance is essential in It was meant to incite people, and it did. The fulfilment of the law is love your neighbor as yourself. Hows that, Gary? Oh, and for the record, I think sockpuppetry, silly parodies and similarly goofy tactics (like people who insist on being called doctor while at the same time using moronic photoshops) have no place in serious debate and/or dialogue. Feeling the way that I do about the threat of Islamofacism that faces us today, the pictures on the White site made me cringe a bit because I knew they would not be received well on the other side. Ive seen several Akin supporters in these comments admit wrongdoing, lack of charity, etc., without backing down on their position. Acts 4:10-12 Maybe youre a professor in logic at some prestigious university. Roman Catholics differ on as many issues as Protestant Evangelicals do. 3. He has been married for more than thirty-six years and has two children and four grandchildren. 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