Think Furtick problem maybe just being ignorant of the word, proud. For many, it's the church's loud Christian rock music. Dont trust me. In other words, Furtick didnt reiterate Matthew 13:58. The starting point classes and the nonsense. Study the Scriptures. Similarly, today a Doctor would tell a 21st century man to lay off coffee, an over used source of stomach (acid) trouble. I appreciate the tone of our conversation very much. You and I arent in Gamaliels situation. I wouldnt think so, but thats the result of what youve written. These are only a few of the many, many passages that show that the Father and Son are not the same person. First, God is not subject to any law. This is, quite simply, unbiblical. Because Steven Furtick isnt a reliable and responsible teacher, recommending their music is a lot like endorsing a false teacher. Im grateful that youve pointed to a few things Furtick teaches that are unbiblical. Lets all open our Bibles and compare what we believe with what God has said, and adjust our beliefs accordingly. God does respond to our faith. Not trapped in their perspective.? I only do so because people write to me and ask whether this teacher or that teacher can be trusted. Down the hall?"'. John Rice associated with some he didnt agree with as long as they professed Christ as Savior. "But, gosh, we're all on the same team." In this case, I consider it helpful to provide a general warning. Peter called Pauls writings Scripture and Paul called out others in exactly this fashion. If one doesnt, then such a one can ask humbly for help (James 4:10), as this man in scripture did! When you find where God wants you, it will be satisfying and rewarding and frustrating and youll need patience and grace and perseverance because the church is filled with broken people who are in the middle of being put back together. These men tend to teach extra biblical or unbiblical thoughts as truth. Gods power is not blocked by anything. Thanks. Im confident that were all better for it. When we look in the mirror, however, it doesnt seem that He guides us into all truth right away. John Calvin comments, Unbelievers, as far as lies in their power, bind up the hands of God by their obstinacy; not that God is overcome, as if he were an inferior, but because they do not permit him to display his power. Jesus did not do miracles because performing them would have been against His purpose to judge those who were unwilling to believe. Well, enough wrangling. (Thats two behind Michael Jordan and two ahead of retired Bank of America CEO Hugh McColl. Can you please provide the date of the sermon you reference (or better yet, a link as most Furtick sermons are available online). Ive included a funny video below that you might like. Many people such as Paul himself before his conversion, along with his brother Pharisees, know the Word. I wonder: why do you think that almost all of the books in the New Testament warn Christians to watch out for false teachers? Gabriel, in. God, in, I know that you can do all things; no purpose of yours can be thwarted. Dont trust yourself. Almost all of the books in the New Testament warn us about false teachers, and tell us what to do when we find them. God the Father, son and spirit is one and same person in three forms to carry out different functions for man. No, I get that it would be rough if others out here in cyberspace land could write at the same length, yet all I ask is that you follow same, be equitable . Its good that I leave in physical form because then I can give you in spiritual form, then I can direct you from a deeper place.. What can we say about these people? That said, Christianity is far, far more than just being saved. So that we, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passes knowledge, that you might be filled with all the fulness of God. Ive outlined a few of the reasons we know that modalism is false in my previous comment to you. Post the video showing Seven stating this and 2 or more to find this man is misleading before you accusing. For example, if the ancient Israelites obeyed the terms of the old covenant, He would bless them. Elevation Church was founded by Furtick in 2006 with just fourteen members. I hope youre doing great! Youre right. I also added my own clarifying comments to the citation. God is spirit. Your use of this passage suggests that we dont know whether Furtick is teaching the gospel or not whether its from God or not. Word of Faith teachers twist the Scriptures to say something that God has never said. Ive added a link at the bottom (in the Notes section) to a video where Furtick calls Meyer the greatest Bible teacher alive today. Do YOU believe that God is a molecular structure? They celebrated their honeymoon by traveling around the Caribbean on a cruise. It doesnt say more than that. The blind man said unto him, Lord, that I might receive my sight. Will be a week or so. Thanks again. Thanks for visiting! He enables us to believe. . The Father and Son are obviously, clearly, biblically, and logically distinct from one another. My first suggestion is always to be gentle. I also was attached to Furtick and his teachings not too long ago but thank God for a biblical counselor who called him out and really challenged me to listen to what he is saying. My wife and mother in law are both very attached to Steven Furtick and Ive tried to tell them about modalism and other things he says but they always interpret it to mean something else. If there are disputable matters, there are indisputable matters. It might be helpful for you to read What is a False Teacher. But we still felt that God had given us a message and a vision that would serve the city well.". Furtick is the proud son of Larry Stevens Furtick (father) and Faith Furtick (mother). They were all involved in the creation, for example. Pastor Furtick is one of the chosen. There is ONE Spirit, ONE Lord, ONE God and FATHER of all who is above all and through all and in you all So yes, the Spirit in us IS the Father , and He IS the Son, ie the Word of God made flesh. The only real question is whether Steven Furtick IS a false teacher. From Ligonier (https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/obstacle-unbelief). As the name suggests, tritheism is the belief in three different gods. A very dangerous course: What Saddleback Church ouster means for Southern Baptists. He is rare he actually tells how life really is and tells his own fears and struggles that people can actually relate to. Do you agree with him when he says that God is a molecular structure that fills all in all, and that thats what it means to say that Christ was from the beginning? Of course, those are entirely irrelevant as to whether hes a false teacher. What IS the question? Where is the Holy Spirit conviction , wheres the guidance of the Holy Spirit ? This is nonsense. Lets see a sit down between you and Pastor Furtick. He wished he had known about that before but, because his denomination only uses the KJV, he had no idea. One would assume that this kind of education might help him avoid really dumb theological ideas, but that assumption is flawed. In Matthew 13:53-58 Jesus is in His hometown, and Hes not getting the same kind of response there that He got elsewhere. There seem to be a lot of controversies/criticisms about Steven Furtick and Elevation church doctrines and also rumors of false teaching. The false teaching is the one that contradicts Gods own words when HE said that He is the only God, and when as the Son, He said that He (the Son/Word) and the Father are ONE (heis : one in ESSENCE) I dont know enough about Furtick to know whether he is preaching/teaching the heresy re what you speak creates your reality (a synergistic new age teaching brought into the church by quite a few false teachers of the NAR crowd who are spreading that teaching and building churches all over the US and probably around the world the Declaration statement may indicate this is in his mind if not his teaching but we can only know what he speaks out of his mouth directly) but Modalism is not false. To suggest that God is not all-powerful goes against 3500 years of biblical witness, every bit of Judaic and Christian belief, and hundreds of verses of Scripture, both Old and New Testament. The context doesnt suggest that God lost any ability due to Israels actions the context tells us that God responded as He said He would. Im curious. You ask about removing their names. As the founder and pastor of Elevation Church home of the popular Christian music group Elevation Worship he has a great amount of influence and a worldwide audience. Furtick says some false things, but on this scripture, I will stand with collaborating scripture and Matthew Henry. These friends and mentors, who lead big churches like Elevation, set his salary, which Furtick won't divulge. Thank you so much for the explanation. Knowledge is important but it alone doesnt save. We are told it in scripture, and accept it on faith. Does he believe Jesus is the only way to heaven ? This was Gamaliels opinion, and shouldnt be used as a strategy for how to address false teaching in the church. Now I pay attention more to the words spoken by pastors and dont just take everything they say as being true. View More Sermons. I am not a follower of Furtick, but you ask, Do you see it? God did not arbitrarily decide He now longer cared about cleanliness. And he performed very few miracles there because of their lack of faith. In both it indicates that did not is part and partial to could not for it was the lack of their faith that caused this. This is also false. The question is whether Steven Furtick was RIGHT or WRONG when he claimed that Jesus wanted to do more (seems reasonable) but WAS THWARTED (utterly heretical). And if a church were to simply remove the names of the musicians and only include the title, would this somehow make singing the songs ok? He asked seven couples to go with him and his wife, sell their homes, and move to a yet unknown city, with no promise of pay. I have had an on again, off again relationship with my faith throughout the years. God can do whatever He chooses to do. Hes not alone, unfortunately. Jesus still has a body, by the way He didnt stop being human after the resurrection. The problem is what the people teach, and the damage done to both believers and non-believers alike. I really appreciate your conclusion as it shows compassion and love. I am well too, thanks. Paul gave us the way to avoid error in Philippians 3. "I got married after my freshman year of college, and gave birth to my first daughter shortly after. When people defend false teachers and repeat their errors, thats bad too right? You wrote, It was those who had faith that received from God that day! First, it must be said that the text does not give us that information. Thats the question. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation, but then it is to every one that believes, Rom. How many have only joined a church , gotten baptized, confirmed without being convicted. As he says of lack of faith; So that if mighty works be not wrought in us, it is not for want of power or grace in Christ, but for want of faith in us That statement is based solely on what we see in Scripture, with which anybody can and everybody should become familiar. No I cant see a mans heart, but everybody talking about heaven aint going. Photo courtesy: Jackoo012345/Creative Commons, cropped and resized to 1200x627 Video courtesy: Elevation Church Don't surrender in the middle of the struggle.In "Been Here Before," Pastor Steven Furtick encourages us to hold fast to hope because God is with us in whate. As Ive written in What is a False Teacher, I want to be careful, and I dont see these teachers as my enemies only as people who need to be seen, assessed, critiqued, and understood. 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